Episodes
Episodes



Monday Jun 23, 2025
Monday Jun 23, 2025
In this provocative episode, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill, along with Dr. Gerald Juhnke, host Dr. Aaron Kindsvatter for a candid discussion about the recent civil rights complaint filed against CACREP, alleging ideological bias in counselor education. Dr. Kindsvatter, a vocal critic of what he sees as growing ideological conformity in the field, has sparked national conversation and controversy through his writings and recent activity on CESNET. Together, the panel explores the implications of the complaint, the boundaries of academic freedom, and whether CACREP’s standards are veering away from neutrality in counselor training. Whether you agree or disagree, this conversation will challenge assumptions and invite deeper reflection on the future of counselor education.



Monday Mar 03, 2025
Navigating Loss in Academia and Counseling
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Welcome to Navigating Loss in Academia and Counseling, a podcast where we explore the personal and professional impact of loss within academic and counseling communities. In this episode, Dr. Martin Wesley and Dr. David Whittinghill are joined by special guests Dr. Laura Schmuldt, Dr. Jerry Juhnke, and Victoria Henderson for a deeply personal and insightful discussion on losing a colleague, faculty member, or student.
Loss is an inevitable yet profoundly challenging experience, especially within academic and counseling settings, where close relationships are formed between faculty, students, and colleagues. In this episode, we share our experiences of navigating grief, both personally and in our roles as educators and counselors. We reflect on the lasting impact our colleagues and students had on us and discuss the ways we’ve helped our students and peers cope with these difficult moments.
Dr. David Whittinghill shares his deeply personal story of loss—not only of a beloved colleague and wife but also his own near-death experience. His perspective sheds light on resilience, healing, and the intersection of personal and professional grief.
Join us for this meaningful conversation on honoring those we’ve lost, supporting one another through grief, and finding ways to carry their legacy forward in our work and lives.



Thursday Jan 30, 2025
DEI in Counseling and Counselor Education
Thursday Jan 30, 2025
Thursday Jan 30, 2025
In this episode, we explore Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in Counseling and Counselor Education with special guests Dr. Rick Balkin, Dr. Laura Schmuldt, Dr. Lourdes Araujo, and Demetrius Jifunza. Our discussion examines the well-intended goals of DEI and the challenges it has faced in achieving its ideals. We also address the complexities of discussing DEI in today’s climate, where open conversations on the topic can be difficult and even professionally risky—an irony that contradicts the very purpose of engaging in meaningful dialogue. Additionally, we delve into the impact of DEI on faculty hiring and its influence on grant funding decisions.



Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Election Reflection for Counseling and Counselor Education
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
In this thought-provoking episode, we are joined by special guests Dr. Laura Schmuldt and Rob Lima for a candid discussion on the impact of political polarization—both in society and within the field of counseling. As the nation faces unprecedented divides, the role of counselors and counselor educators has never been more critical in fostering understanding and bridging gaps. Yet, even within our profession, differing political perspectives often hinder meaningful dialogue and collaboration.
Together, we explore the challenges that are fracturing our field, delve into the cultural and systemic forces driving division, and share practical strategies for creating open, respectful conversations across ideological lines. Whether you’re a practicing counselor, an educator, or simply curious about navigating polarization in your own life, this episode offers valuable insights and actionable tips for fostering unity and empathy in a divided world.



Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Are We Training our Counselors for the Past or Future?
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Counselor Education: Are we training our counselors for the job we had, or are we training them for the job they will get?
David and Marty are joined by a distinguished panel of counselor educators, including Dr. Carl Sheperis, Dr. Jill Duba Sauerheber, Dr. Rick Balkin, and Dr. Gerald Juhnke. In this podcast, these professors tackle some important issues about the future of counseling and counselor education, including the use of Artificial Intelligence in counseling and education.



Thursday Aug 01, 2024
The Latest from the Counseling Compact
Thursday Aug 01, 2024
Thursday Aug 01, 2024
In this edition of the TheraPodcast, Drs David Whittinghill and Martin Wesley interview Dr. Andrea Brooks, the Vice Chair for the Counseling Compact and Kentucky state representative. The purpose of the compact is discussed along with various ethical dilemmas and a timeline for its implementation. For more information about the Counseling Compact, visit https://counselingcompact.org/



Thursday Jul 11, 2024
Cop to Counselor Pt. 2: The Calm in the Chaos
Thursday Jul 11, 2024
Thursday Jul 11, 2024
This podcast continues to tell the story of two decorated police officers who decided to leave their profession for a new career as a licensed professional counselor. This podcast discusses how counselors can help first responders and the military in therapy.



Monday Jun 03, 2024
Cop to Counselor: Crisis Point
Monday Jun 03, 2024
Monday Jun 03, 2024
This podcast tells the story of two decorated police officers who decided to leave their profession for a new career as a licensed professional counselor. This podcast discusses the events and the trauma that led to their career change.

Your Hosts
Dr. Martin Cortez Wesley is a counseling professor with National Louis University. He has been training therapists for 20+ years. He has been in private practice with www.wesleycounseling.com in Apollo Beach, Florida, and does presentations and workshops for www.CounselorEd.com. He is a researcher, writer, conference presenter, and leader in professional counseling, addiction treatment, and mental health.
Dr. David Whittinghill recently retired from the National Board for Certified Counselors (NBCC). Before his leadership role at NBCC, Dr. Whittinghill worked as faculty chair of Counselor Education Departments at the University of Alabama-Birmingham and the University of North Florida. He has published scholarly articles on CACREP curriculum standards and effective counseling of addictive behaviors. In addition to his academic teaching, Dr. Whittinghill is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in the State of Florida.